Natural Sleep Patterns, Community Childrearing

by Megan M. on December 28, 2009

What happens if you have a community of people, an intentional tribe, that doesn’t necessarily sleep at night?

Maybe they’re free-running sleepers, or 28 Hour Day sleepers. Hell, maybe they’re polyphasic. I’m not talking about a controlled environment — I’m talking about an uncontrolled environment, at least in terms of affecting sleep patterns. Can the children grow up being watched by whomever is awake, learning to follow their natural rhythms without being forced to develop sleep patterns that match those of mainstream society (or whoever happens to be in proximity)? Sure, I imagine they’re likely to sleep when some other people are sleeping — but what if they don’t have to?

What would we discover about sleep when it doesn’t have to be attached to daylight or convention? Not where there’s too much or too little daylight, but where because of electricity and technology our patterns and activities are not restricted by it?

Of course, being human also means being an organism that has evolved in a particular combination of light and dark, is accustomed to a certain schedule… But that doesn’t mean that our natural sleep inclinations must follow that strictly, only that we know our patterns can be DISRUPTED by misuse of light and dark. So what does that mean for an intentional community like this?

It’s the kind of experiment I could dream of running, if I knew enough other people interested in sleep experiments — and I admit that going so far as to run the experiment in an environment with growing children is pretty hardcore. I think we’d all want to be pretty sure it wasn’t going to mess everyone up before we subjected our children to it from their moment of birth, you know?

Does this mean it’s an implausible experiment?

Probably not.

In fact, all it needs are the right people and the right circumstances. But it would probably have to happen by itself — not solely as a result of some science-minded explorer just wanting to know. Even if that explorer is me. ;}

Still, I’m pretty interested in communities that raise children (as opposed to isolated single family units, for instance). And I’m just mad for sleep experiments.

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Megan Elizabeth Morris (aka MEM, Megan the M.) is a bonafide professional catalyst and adventurer. She's the Ideaschema instigator, orchestrator and autodidact, and you can find out more about her by clicking here.

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  • Anna

    Well, here's one problem: the world pretty much evolves around the traditional day/night sleeping pattern. Yes, there are some nocturnal jobs, but not really a whole lot of them. So if someone followed a nontraditional, natural sleeping pattern, how would they then support themselves? If children were raised to follow their natural sleeping patterns, regardless of the position of the sun, what would they do for school?

    For the experiment to be successful, you'd pretty much need your own, self-contained and self-sufficient community that could adjust the school and working hours to a 24-hour cycle to accomodating everyone's active time, wouldn't you? It's hard enough arranging a work schedule during the standard working hours – I can't imagine running a business when there weren't set open and close times! :)

  • Anna

    Well, here's one problem: the world pretty much evolves around the traditional day/night sleeping pattern. Yes, there are some nocturnal jobs, but not really a whole lot of them. So if someone followed a nontraditional, natural sleeping pattern, how would they then support themselves? If children were raised to follow their natural sleeping patterns, regardless of the position of the sun, what would they do for school?

    For the experiment to be successful, you'd pretty much need your own, self-contained and self-sufficient community that could adjust the school and working hours to a 24-hour cycle to accomodating everyone's active time, wouldn't you? It's hard enough arranging a work schedule during the standard working hours – I can't imagine running a business when there weren't set open and close times! :)

  • http://thatideablueprintgirl.com/ Megan M.

    Not really a problem, actually — I run in circles where at least half the people I know (probably a lot more, but I'm trying to be conservative) work for themselves and unschool (or at least homeschool) their kids. A lot of them do so on their own natural schedules. I'm certainly one of them, or will be when I have kids someday. ^_^ I know even more people who don't, but are slowly adjusting their lifestyles so that they can work for themselves and teach their kids at home. So technically, if I had a group of people interested in it, I could set it up now. There are mobs of people like this all over the country, so it's really just a question of enough of them being interested in sleep tweaking and being in the same place.

    It's also a question of enough of them being the kind of people who want to raise their children as a tribe — that's harder to come by, I think, just because modern life isolates us all quite a bit. But not unreasonable, since I know there are intentional communities like that existing; I'm just not sure how big they are or what kind of people tend to gravitate towards one another that way.

    I don't think the community would need to be self-sufficient — not everyone would be sleeping off-hours, after all. I think the biggest requirement is that it is a group of people who want their children raised by their tribe. There are a lot of those people out there; I think most of them just don't have the tribe they want. Yet? ^_^

  • http://thatideablueprintgirl.com/ Megan M.

    Not really a problem, actually — I run in circles where at least half the people I know (probably a lot more, but I'm trying to be conservative) work for themselves and unschool (or at least homeschool) their kids. A lot of them do so on their own natural schedules. I'm certainly one of them, or will be when I have kids someday. ^_^ I know even more people who don't, but are slowly adjusting their lifestyles so that they can work for themselves and teach their kids at home. So technically, if I had a group of people interested in it, I could set it up now. There are mobs of people like this all over the country, so it's really just a question of enough of them being interested in sleep tweaking and being in the same place.

    It's also a question of enough of them being the kind of people who want to raise their children as a tribe — that's harder to come by, I think, just because modern life isolates us all quite a bit. But not unreasonable, since I know there are intentional communities like that existing; I'm just not sure how big they are or what kind of people tend to gravitate towards one another that way.

    I don't think the community would need to be self-sufficient — not everyone would be sleeping off-hours, after all. I think the biggest requirement is that it is a group of people who want their children raised by their tribe. There are a lot of those people out there; I think most of them just don't have the tribe they want. Yet? ^_^

  • judyofthewoods

    Intriguing, but could be a potentially dangerous experiment. Melatonin production could be reduced, which in tern could allow greater estrogen production, a hormone linked with cancer. Studies have shown that women who work night shifts are at greater risk of breast and ovarian cancer. My aunt was a night shift nurse and died of breast cancer. You can tell by the size of my tits if I have pulled a few too many late-nighters on the computer, despite skipping meals during those stints and being post menopausal. Here are a couple of articles on those findings and on melatonin

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/03…

    http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-…

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