Comments on: Natural Sleep Patterns, Community Childrearing http://ideaschema.com/natural-sleep-patterns-community-childrearing/ Where Ideas Go to Grow Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: judyofthewoods http://ideaschema.com/natural-sleep-patterns-community-childrearing/comment-page-1/#comment-270 judyofthewoods Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:36:31 +0000 http://thatideablueprintgirl.com/?p=685#comment-270 Intriguing, but could be a potentially dangerous experiment. Melatonin production could be reduced, which in tern could allow greater estrogen production, a hormone linked with cancer. Studies have shown that women who work night shifts are at greater risk of breast and ovarian cancer. My aunt was a night shift nurse and died of breast cancer. You can tell by the size of my tits if I have pulled a few too many late-nighters on the computer, despite skipping meals during those stints and being post menopausal. Here are a couple of articles on those findings and on melatonin<br><br><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/031001060734.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/03...</a><br><br><a href="http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-link.aspx?n=1164" rel="nofollow">http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-...</a> Intriguing, but could be a potentially dangerous experiment. Melatonin production could be reduced, which in tern could allow greater estrogen production, a hormone linked with cancer. Studies have shown that women who work night shifts are at greater risk of breast and ovarian cancer. My aunt was a night shift nurse and died of breast cancer. You can tell by the size of my tits if I have pulled a few too many late-nighters on the computer, despite skipping meals during those stints and being post menopausal. Here are a couple of articles on those findings and on melatonin

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/10/03…

http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-…

]]> By: Megan M. http://ideaschema.com/natural-sleep-patterns-community-childrearing/comment-page-1/#comment-208 Megan M. Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:53:13 +0000 http://thatideablueprintgirl.com/?p=685#comment-208 Not really a problem, actually -- I run in circles where at least half the people I know (probably a lot more, but I'm trying to be conservative) work for themselves and unschool (or at least homeschool) their kids. A lot of them do so on their own natural schedules. I'm certainly one of them, or will be when I have kids someday. ^_^ I know even more people who don't, but are slowly adjusting their lifestyles so that they can work for themselves and teach their kids at home. So technically, if I had a group of people interested in it, I could set it up now. There are mobs of people like this all over the country, so it's really just a question of enough of them being interested in sleep tweaking and being in the same place. <br><br>It's also a question of enough of them being the kind of people who want to raise their children as a tribe -- that's harder to come by, I think, just because modern life isolates us all quite a bit. But not unreasonable, since I know there are intentional communities like that existing; I'm just not sure how big they are or what kind of people tend to gravitate towards one another that way.<br><br>I don't think the community would need to be self-sufficient -- not everyone would be sleeping off-hours, after all. I think the biggest requirement is that it is a group of people who want their children raised by their tribe. There are a lot of those people out there; I think most of them just don't have the tribe they want. Yet? ^_^ Not really a problem, actually — I run in circles where at least half the people I know (probably a lot more, but I'm trying to be conservative) work for themselves and unschool (or at least homeschool) their kids. A lot of them do so on their own natural schedules. I'm certainly one of them, or will be when I have kids someday. ^_^ I know even more people who don't, but are slowly adjusting their lifestyles so that they can work for themselves and teach their kids at home. So technically, if I had a group of people interested in it, I could set it up now. There are mobs of people like this all over the country, so it's really just a question of enough of them being interested in sleep tweaking and being in the same place.

It's also a question of enough of them being the kind of people who want to raise their children as a tribe — that's harder to come by, I think, just because modern life isolates us all quite a bit. But not unreasonable, since I know there are intentional communities like that existing; I'm just not sure how big they are or what kind of people tend to gravitate towards one another that way.

I don't think the community would need to be self-sufficient — not everyone would be sleeping off-hours, after all. I think the biggest requirement is that it is a group of people who want their children raised by their tribe. There are a lot of those people out there; I think most of them just don't have the tribe they want. Yet? ^_^

]]> By: Megan M. http://ideaschema.com/natural-sleep-patterns-community-childrearing/comment-page-1/#comment-211 Megan M. Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:53:13 +0000 http://thatideablueprintgirl.com/?p=685#comment-211 Not really a problem, actually -- I run in circles where at least half the people I know (probably a lot more, but I'm trying to be conservative) work for themselves and unschool (or at least homeschool) their kids. A lot of them do so on their own natural schedules. I'm certainly one of them, or will be when I have kids someday. ^_^ I know even more people who don't, but are slowly adjusting their lifestyles so that they can work for themselves and teach their kids at home. So technically, if I had a group of people interested in it, I could set it up now. There are mobs of people like this all over the country, so it's really just a question of enough of them being interested in sleep tweaking and being in the same place. <br><br>It's also a question of enough of them being the kind of people who want to raise their children as a tribe -- that's harder to come by, I think, just because modern life isolates us all quite a bit. But not unreasonable, since I know there are intentional communities like that existing; I'm just not sure how big they are or what kind of people tend to gravitate towards one another that way.<br><br>I don't think the community would need to be self-sufficient -- not everyone would be sleeping off-hours, after all. I think the biggest requirement is that it is a group of people who want their children raised by their tribe. There are a lot of those people out there; I think most of them just don't have the tribe they want. Yet? ^_^ Not really a problem, actually — I run in circles where at least half the people I know (probably a lot more, but I'm trying to be conservative) work for themselves and unschool (or at least homeschool) their kids. A lot of them do so on their own natural schedules. I'm certainly one of them, or will be when I have kids someday. ^_^ I know even more people who don't, but are slowly adjusting their lifestyles so that they can work for themselves and teach their kids at home. So technically, if I had a group of people interested in it, I could set it up now. There are mobs of people like this all over the country, so it's really just a question of enough of them being interested in sleep tweaking and being in the same place.

It's also a question of enough of them being the kind of people who want to raise their children as a tribe — that's harder to come by, I think, just because modern life isolates us all quite a bit. But not unreasonable, since I know there are intentional communities like that existing; I'm just not sure how big they are or what kind of people tend to gravitate towards one another that way.

I don't think the community would need to be self-sufficient — not everyone would be sleeping off-hours, after all. I think the biggest requirement is that it is a group of people who want their children raised by their tribe. There are a lot of those people out there; I think most of them just don't have the tribe they want. Yet? ^_^

]]> By: Anna http://ideaschema.com/natural-sleep-patterns-community-childrearing/comment-page-1/#comment-207 Anna Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:48:34 +0000 http://thatideablueprintgirl.com/?p=685#comment-207 Well, here's one problem: the world pretty much evolves around the traditional day/night sleeping pattern. Yes, there are some nocturnal jobs, but not really a whole lot of them. So if someone followed a nontraditional, natural sleeping pattern, how would they then support themselves? If children were raised to follow their natural sleeping patterns, regardless of the position of the sun, what would they do for school?<br><br>For the experiment to be successful, you'd pretty much need your own, self-contained and self-sufficient community that could adjust the school and working hours to a 24-hour cycle to accomodating everyone's active time, wouldn't you? It's hard enough arranging a work schedule during the standard working hours - I can't imagine running a business when there weren't set open and close times! :) Well, here's one problem: the world pretty much evolves around the traditional day/night sleeping pattern. Yes, there are some nocturnal jobs, but not really a whole lot of them. So if someone followed a nontraditional, natural sleeping pattern, how would they then support themselves? If children were raised to follow their natural sleeping patterns, regardless of the position of the sun, what would they do for school?

For the experiment to be successful, you'd pretty much need your own, self-contained and self-sufficient community that could adjust the school and working hours to a 24-hour cycle to accomodating everyone's active time, wouldn't you? It's hard enough arranging a work schedule during the standard working hours – I can't imagine running a business when there weren't set open and close times! :)

]]> By: Anna http://ideaschema.com/natural-sleep-patterns-community-childrearing/comment-page-1/#comment-210 Anna Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:48:34 +0000 http://thatideablueprintgirl.com/?p=685#comment-210 Well, here's one problem: the world pretty much evolves around the traditional day/night sleeping pattern. Yes, there are some nocturnal jobs, but not really a whole lot of them. So if someone followed a nontraditional, natural sleeping pattern, how would they then support themselves? If children were raised to follow their natural sleeping patterns, regardless of the position of the sun, what would they do for school?<br><br>For the experiment to be successful, you'd pretty much need your own, self-contained and self-sufficient community that could adjust the school and working hours to a 24-hour cycle to accomodating everyone's active time, wouldn't you? It's hard enough arranging a work schedule during the standard working hours - I can't imagine running a business when there weren't set open and close times! :) Well, here's one problem: the world pretty much evolves around the traditional day/night sleeping pattern. Yes, there are some nocturnal jobs, but not really a whole lot of them. So if someone followed a nontraditional, natural sleeping pattern, how would they then support themselves? If children were raised to follow their natural sleeping patterns, regardless of the position of the sun, what would they do for school?

For the experiment to be successful, you'd pretty much need your own, self-contained and self-sufficient community that could adjust the school and working hours to a 24-hour cycle to accomodating everyone's active time, wouldn't you? It's hard enough arranging a work schedule during the standard working hours – I can't imagine running a business when there weren't set open and close times! :)

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